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Does anyone know when the E51 will be released?
www.gsmarena.com/nokia_e51-2106.php

Nope. Bueller?

looks the same as 6120 - slightly different colour

This is one of the few phones that combine HSDPA and WIFI.. I want to use the phone as a modem to access 3's broadband and when in range of WIFI network, use VoIP.

I'm too waiting for this phone. This is the first compact phone with HSDPA and WIFI.

ShArPeR writes...

This is the first compact phone with HSDPA and WIFI.

Isn't N95 compact? Besides Samsung i600 (not Blackhack which is i607) has HSDPA and Wifi.

Nami~Swan~ writes...

Isn't N95 compact?

HAHAHAH

N95 is huge, the width is hu-gantic

acrazzZ writes...

HAHAHAH

I take it you haven't owned one of the true big boys; Nokia E90, HTC Tytn II or their daddy HTC Advantage.

Nami~Swan~ writes...

I take it you haven't owned one of the true big boys; Nokia E90, HTC Tytn II or their daddy HTC Advantage.

No, I havent, I havent even owned a N95. Isn't the N90 the huge camera?

But my argument is that the N95 is not compact

e51 looks awesome, I read that it will be available Q4, so hopefully before the end of the year.

E51 should be out next week, along with the Nokia N95. About the 12th of November.

Been testing with one today I can tell you it is thinner than the 6120, same width but about 15mm longer. I find the keypad a bit easier to use as the buttons are slightly bigger than the 6120

Umm Yeah writes...

Been testing with one today I can tell you it is thinner than the 6120, same width but about 15mm longer. I find the keypad a bit easier to use as the buttons are slightly bigger than the 6120

sweet ive been looking at the e65 but if this is just round the corner I might wait, I'd rather a candybar then a slider...

any other general thoughts/impressions?

Its deffinatly not getting all the hype of the new N95.

yeah its not a flagship phone, these never do, but I'd prefer it, the n95 is huge

wouldn't be surprised if this becomes the top nokia seller on next g.
wi-fi makes it more useful than the 6120.
the n95 is way too much for most punters.
this happens to be a pretty good s60 handset

This phone looks lke exactly what I want. I was tempted to get the 6120c but liked the wifi in the e65. This phone combines the two.

How long would you think it would take for 3 to adopt this phone and what plan/repayment option would you predict?

With the aussie dollar doing well it is tempting to buy it from that site mentioned (If they shipped to AUS). :-)

A mate picked one of these up earlier this week, and he only ever buys from store-front retailers so they must be around.

Balance writes...

A mate picked one of these up earlier this week, and he only ever buys from store-front retailers so they must be around.

are you sure it was an e51?

I didn't think it was out for another week or two. I'm really struggling to decide between the E51 and the N81 at the moment. :P

Just got home from a not-so-wild night involving aforementioned mate. Saw it, handled it, kinda like a dark, slightly classier Symbian version of the 6234, so I'll be getting one.

He got it from a the "Telstra Life" (didn't even know that existed) store on George St Sydney.

Balance writes...

A mate picked one of these up earlier this week, and he only ever buys from store-front retailers so they must be around.

There are definitely shop fronts that will sell imported handsets even after having been told that it MUST be Australian stock from Nokia.... it happened to me, but fortunately I knew what to look for. It WAS a shopfront, I was disgusted.

Balance writes...

A mate picked one of these up earlier this week, and he only ever buys from store-front retailers so they must be around.

If it actually was a e51, what sort of price did he get it for?

Balance writes...

He got it from a the "Telstra Life" (didn't even know that existed) store on George St Sydney.

I didn't ask what plan it was on, but it's an E51 alright.

micdub writes...

If it actually was a e51, what sort of price did he get it for?

The are around $629 outright from telstra, or free on a $60 phone plan over 24 months

Wow. Sorry, but that is as ugly as shit.
The features are nice, but to me - phones have to look the part.
Obviously a business phone.

Faux writes...

Obviously a business phone.

As every mobile should be ;)

Yes E51 should be in normal Telstra Shops Today/Tomorrow as with the N95

Andrew Gildea writes...

Yes E51 should be in normal Telstra Shops

So far, it is looking like a Telstra exclusive phone :(
- hope that is not true!

Christmas Catalog says Exclusive to Telstra :)

Andrew Gildea writes...

Exclusive to Telstra
If bought outright from Telstra, does it have Telstra firmware or generic?

Andrew Gildea writes...

Christmas Catalog says Exclusive to Telstra :)

Well that's well and truly made my mind up, I was trying to decide between the E51 and the N81, I'm with Virgin, and I hate Telstra.

With regards to Wifi on the phone....

What third party software can be used to make/receive calls via voip?

Anyone had much use with voip on these types of phones.

Just trying to figure out if it is worth it - to make voip calls to family/friends here in oz and overseas....

Thanks

Hurcules writes...

What third party software can be used to make/receive calls via voip?

I've got Truphone, Voxalot and others configured on my N95.

More info. here:
faq.voxalot.com/action/v...OTA_provisioning

so would it be safe to say - this software will/might/wont work on the E51?

vbap writes...

If bought outright from Telstra, does it have Telstra firmware or generic?
Telstra branding.

BUT Nothing that can't be changed I don't think (Except for maybe the start up/shut down screens... haven't played with branded Symbian.)

Whats your thoughts ( those who have one now ) on this phone my maxxV6 is on its lasts legs and i was going to upgrade to the V9 but then this was realeased if its as good as its write ups would like to go back to a nokia candybar.

Does this phone automatically roam onto different bands unlike the maxxV6?

Is the speakerphone and general volume anygood?, anyone compared it to a maxxV6?

c0r writes...

anyone compared it to a maxxV6?
Ive just done the same upgrade, Do it!

E51 out now and at least it works with the CK7W car kit (No Echo)

anyone had any lucky with this phone and use of voip on the handset as yet?

Saaaahm writes...

Ive just done the same upgrade, Do it!

Went and looked at it this afternoon was an easy choice will play with it soon.

Does anyone know if the E51 does video calls.

The salesman in the Tesltra business center said no, it does not have a front mount camera.

Telstra on-line says yes, but does show a front mounted camera in the pictures.

I was looking at the 6120 and then thought the E51 would be nice with WiFi but the had the salesman point out the draw back about video calls. Not sure it makes any difference but am interested to know if the salesman or Telstra online is correct.

badbaddog writes...

Does anyone know if the E51 does video calls.

The salesman in the Tesltra business center said no, it does not have a front mount camera.
Yes it does video calls, and yes it has a front mount camera, its just very small on the top left hand side

yes it can do video but it has no front camera (that's a light sensor) same as e65

vbap writes...

yes it can do video but it has no front camera (that's a light sensor) same as e65
ive never made a video call so i havent really looked at it too much

anyone got the PTT function work on the phone as yet ?

I cant seem to find the settings anywhere ....

Can anyone list what this phone comes shipped with? Specifically whether there is a memory card in the bundle. Thanks

I think you will find - most phones now come with some kinda memory card....

The E51 comes with 256 card

what type of plan is it on? $40pm with $0 phone?

dont know - i purchased it outright

Does the e51 support SAP profiles?

I've done some searching and found international sites that say it does, but nothing in Oz. The spec on the Nokia site asia.nokia.com/A4544345 only says Bluetooth 2.0 w/ enhanced data rate.

Thanks

So am I right in the when it says video calls yes, it means a video call but if you want to be in the picture, you cant see the screen?
The manual just says you can do video calls doesnt actually say anything about what camera it uses.

its on a $60 plan for now, no doubt when the 6120 gets put on prepaid at $299 in the not so distant future, it will come down to a $30.

i haven't read that anywhere, it just seems inev...inevit...inevitable. Jesus christ open your ******* ears!

no echo in bluetooth

my boss is about to kill himself over this, probably the one drawback to the 6120.

just bought one!
black
very nice layout, still getiing used to it.
$60 pm $0 outright
symbian is a bit different, but im sure i will get used to it and love it.
it's on the charge till tomorrow morning
and a free gps from harvey norman! woop!

Very happy with this phone as a replacement for a Samsung A701.

Three queries.
1. Has anyone had success initiating the VOIP features or have Telstra disabled this in the nextG version?

2. Is there any software that could provide the equivalent of access groups on some of the older e-series phones. At present I need to switch email access points (WLAN/HSDPA) via the menus - tedious.

3. Suggestions for a case welcome.

thanks

Telebond

OverFienD writes...

Does the e51 support SAP profiles?

BUMP....

i'm the same, i swapped betweent he A701 and the Jasjam - both of them will be not getting used anymore. Love the E51!

In regards to your VOIP quetion, i had a quick play, couldnt work much out, but i will keep playing once i have given it a full charge.

Bought the E51 today. And bell bugger me if it aint the best thing ive bought in years.

Where I could only get 1bar on the 701 ive got full strength on the E51. Great call quality. The Symbian OS just kills Windows mobile in my books.

And Voip on a mobile is such a cool concept when roaming about my house!

The E51 definately can do video calls however due to there being only one camera if you wish to to be in picutre u must turn the phone around, hence u cant see the other person. There is no front based camera.

Anyone know an easy way to sync Mac addressbook and phone numbers with the E51.

I compared an E51 with a 6120 on NextG in northern NSW in difficult reception areas. Both are similar for reception with the E51 having a slight edge. A T165 was marginally better than both. All phones handheld! The T165 doesn't feel like a "real" phone though.

Is an E51 Force cradle coming soon similar to the 6120 cradle. I've been told that the bluetooth cradles have problems if you take the phone out - the call still goes to the carkit. Is that correct?

Perhaps I don't understand the bluetook thing all that well.

platypus444 writes...

Anyone know an easy way to sync Mac addressbook and phone numbers with the E51.

iSync?
europe.nokia.com/mac/isync
Plug in is listed there for iSync 2.4

Thanks.

I didn't know Nokia supported Apple iSync.

telebond writes...

1. Has anyone had success initiating the VOIP features or have Telstra disabled this in the nextG version?

I am no voip expert but found a program called Fring which lets you make Skype, GoogleTalk etc calls (You still need logons from those respective services).

www.fring.com

platypus444 writes...

I've been told that the bluetooth cradles have problems if you take the phone out - the call still goes to the carkit. Is that correct?

This may be somewhat OT, but this is a problem with my BlueAnt Supertooth and my N95. We have to switch off the Blue Ant to get calls through when the handset is removed from the car.

bigears1940 writes...

We have to switch off the Blue Ant to get calls through when the handset is removed from the car

That is normal, the BlueAnt's seem to have a damn good range with Bluetooth!

How much is the BlueAnt Supertooth?

Does it provide an aerial connector?

Does it have a cradle?

If so, is the aerial permanently plugged into the cradle or do you have to plug in the aerial every time you insert the N95?

Does the Blue Ant charge the phone?

If the BlueAnt SuperTooth doesn't do any of the above is there any carkit solution for the N95 which includes a N95 compatible cradle?

For that matter is there a carkit solution for the E51 which provides for external aerial, cradle and charger?

platypus444 writes...

For that matter is there a carkit solution for the E51 which provides for external aerial, cradle and charger?

Good question. I assume that there will be a cradle to suit this phone and then use it with the CK7W Nokia car kit - the kit on its own doesn't support an external antenna. You need to get a cradle to suit the handset. Anyone??

Can anyone tell me where I can buy the phone outright in Melbourne. I am travelling on Saturday and would like to buy this phone before I leave hence cannot wait for online delivery.

Any Telstra shop; I've seen 'em in the city.

I would also be interested to know if there is likely to be external aerial capability as for the 6210c

harleyone writes...

I would also be interested to know if there is likely to be external aerial capability as for the 6210c

www.ptp.net.au

Very soon.. they are patch aerials though, as the Nokia6120 does not have an external connector.

Edit': Grrr alcohol having an effect lol

Topher1976 writes...

they are patch aerials though

Do you "inductive" patch leads??

I am told that the BURY cradles have inductive aerials built into the cradles where that is appropriate.

I've got one of these, and was wondering if there was anyway to remove the telsra firmware/OS whatever it is. and revert it to the default one?

because occasionally when I go to enter the menu, it won't go in and the top get's garbled like it half loaded. I'm guessing this has to do with telstra sticking their nose in?

correct me if I'm wrong

-thanks

Haven't bothered to read this whole thread, but where can I buy one of these NOW ?

I need it before Tuesday night. Just want handset outright.

-np- writes...

Any Telstra shop; I've seen 'em in the city.

Thanks

Erlang,Erlang writes...

where can I buy one of these NOW

I picked up one today from my local Telstra shop (in Newcastle).

I love the size of the screen, the feel of the phone, the back cover, mostly everything.

Two disappointments - it doesn't look like the USB cable charges, and there's a bug in the Mail for Exchange application where it fails if a site requires HTTPS and the supplied certificate has multiple addresses.

Does anyone know if and possibly when the E51 could be released through Optus? Waiting on insurance claim and I'd like to get this phone but have to do it through Optus. Thanks

OverFienD writes...

Does the e51 support SAP profiles?

BUMP!!!

Can anyone enlighten me?! Thanks

OverFienD writes...

Can anyone enlighten me?! Thanks

I just received mine today. Can't see any reference to SAP profiles, only SIP profiles.

got mine today
very impressed

anyone had anyluck finding protective film for the front screen and the rear camera area? The originals that came on the phone are rapidly degrading.

Mappers writes...

.. Does anyone know if and possibly when the E51 could be released through Optus? Waiting on insurance claim and I'd like to get this phone but have to do it through Optus. Thanks

bump

Just out of interest, aren't you interested in it for the 850MHz capability?

i.e. NextG ?

Among may things about this phone the ability to use both HSDPA networks is great because I use both Optus and Telstra.

Mappers writes...

bump

I think Telstra have this exclusively at least for a while. It is actually branded on the back which is irritating. They don't show that in the product photos on the T website.

I really like it. The buttons are easy to use compared to the 6120 being a smidge longer and the thin profile is very nice. Functionality is really good.

Haven't worked out how to set up VoIP yet. Does anyone have a recommendation on which VoIP provider to use? Do they all charge monthly access fees?

eddie b writes...

Haven't worked out how to set up VoIP yet. Does anyone have a recommendation on which VoIP provider to use? Do they all charge monthly access fees?

Here is s a setup guide that I made:
faq.voxalot.com/action/v...OTA_provisioning
it should be equally useful with the E51

And NO, not all providers have monthly access fees.

eddie b writes...

I think Telstra have this exclusively at least for a while.....

Thanks for that eddie b. I thought that was the case because I went to optus and they didn't even know what phone I was talking about. Just hoping that someone may have had some inside info...

I've had the E51 now for a few weeks.

The Good
Familiar Nokia functionality and ease of use.
Synchronisation with Outlook is good.
Pleasantly surpised how good the Next G reception is in northern Vic.
Slim case means it sits in the shirt pocket comfortably but make sure the button's done up!
Battery life seems the best of any phone I've owned.
Keyboard is usable but only just; being a little bigger than the 6120 made all the difference to me.
Build quality is very good.
WiFi & BT setup was easy.

Not So
Font size and icons are a little small for me even using the largest font. This is really bugging me as I thought I'd be able to cope so now I'm reconsidering a N95 or Treo.
I love to get rid of the Telstra/Bigpond crap.
The charger plug size is smaller so none of my old Nokia chargers will work with it but I understand you can buy an adaptor.
Only the Turquoise colour scheme allows me enough contrast to read the screen. The others would work but the font size makes them unusable IMO.

Mobile World(?) in Melb seems to be the cheapest at $589. Compared to other Next G phones, especially the F165, its worth the extra money.

Cheers

Hiya,

Just recieved one.... As for SAP profiles, in the manual under 'bluetooth' it states the profiles supported, and yes SAP profiles are supported!

I'll post more once I've used it a little!

Cheers!

EDIT: And I've just put this to the test... a new SAP Bluetooth module for my S-Class... works perfectly... updates contacts each time it connects, all easily accessible from the COMAND system, very niiice!

Looks just about perfect to me... EXCEPT - are you serious that it doesnt have a front camera for video calling? Are THEY serious? What were they thinking?

I set up one for a client to sync to Outlook, I reckon they look great, feel great, pity they're covered in Telstra crap...

One odd thing that's annoying me...

You can't set the contacts to SIM as a default... you have to go into contacts then go 'options-->Sim Contacts--->SIM directory. Which is a pain in the ass, if you want to use the SIM memory.

I know you can just copy them over, but every other phone I've had has enabled me to use SIM contacts as default!

Does anyone know how to get around this?

chunkYE writes...

anyway to remove the telsra firmware/OS whatever it is. and revert it to the default one?

You will need to change the product code of the phone using NSS - Do a google search to find this - to a generic one - something like 0552362 would be good, then run the Nokia Software Updater it will pick up that there is no update but it will let you reinstall the firmware, do this and whoohooo no more Telstra branding.

Don't forget to backup your contacts first. :-)

If you choose to set up a mobile phone as a VOIP phone (a E51 in my case), is it correct that you can only phone other VOIP phones?

That seems to be what Nokia tech support have told me!

platypus444 writes...

If you choose to set up a mobile phone as a VOIP phone (a E51 in my case), is it correct that you can only phone other VOIP phones?

No it is not correct. You need a VSP [voice service provider] that offers calling off-net to PSTN and mobile though. A little more info. here:
www.affinityvision.com.a...es-detailed.html

moving from the 6120 thread (more appropriate here).

does anyone find the E51 a bit too long?
it is in between the 6120 and the old 6310i (which was a bit too long for my liking).

i know that it is often personal preference but some opinions on this would be appreciated. I tend to keep phones for a long time...

cheers,
procrastinator

Has anyone found a case for the E51? I found a "crystal clear case" on eBay, but the guys (staff) didn't like them - had no belt clip, and they're hard plastic rather than leather/vinyl. One has broken already. I've seen a couple of leather type cases, but they are the sort that you have to take the phone out of the case to answer a call, which is not real practical when it's a work phone that rings all day. Would a case from a different model fit, and if so, which one? We'd like to get the cases asap before the staff wreck the phones!

AndrewMc writes...

Here is s a setup guide that I made:
faq.voxalot.com/action/v...OTA_provisioning
it should be equally useful with the E51

And NO, not all providers have monthly access fees.

Thanks for your feedback Andrew. I haven't got around to trying this out yet, but have started to get my head around it all. Good info on your website BTW. Thanks.

procrastinator writes...

does anyone find the E51 a bit too long?

I can't say I have any issue with it at all. I haven't used the 6120, but the buttons are too small for my liking, whereas the E51 is easy peasy. I really like the feel of it - the battery cover is stainless steel...never seen that before. And it is made in Finland. Must be good:-)

Anyone know where this can be bought outright in Sydney apart from the Telstra shop at 400 George St?

Like the phone, and need to buy outright due to work contract (not with Telstra), but no-one apart from TLS seems to have it? Specifically looking for it without the Telstra and Bigpond 'programming'

bislama writes...

Like the phone, and need to buy outright due to work contract (not with Telstra), but no-one apart from TLS seems to have it? Specifically looking for it without the Telstra and Bigpond 'programming'

It's been mentioned before that you can take the phone back to Nokia defaults and lose all the Telstra branding. See this link on page 5 forum-replies.cfm?t=824797&p=5#r97

eddie b writes...

Good info on your website BTW. Thanks.

Thanks, I really need to do more work on it though, glad it was useful for you.

bislama writes...

Specifically looking for it without the Telstra and Bigpond 'programming'

That can be removed by flashing the firmware....

But flashing the firmware voids the warranty?

Would prefer to get it from someone other than Telstra anyway

Have found a site in the Us that sells the E51 for $AU264.53 plus shipping.
Catch is you need to spend a minimum of $AU571.10 to complete a transaction.
absolute-electronics.com...uage=en&cPath=41

russellferrier writes...

Have found a site in the Us

I had a look at them.....got me a bit worried that they ONLY accept Western Union Money Transfer......

Yeah, me too.
A friend of mine just bought an E51. Loves it.
I'm on CDMA and needing to migrate to NextG very soon. Hoping the price comes down after Christmas.
Need to buy outright and use prepaid as I work offshore for three or four weeks at a time.

Does anyone find that the E51 gets hot after a few minutes of use?

I guess I am trying to compare it to the 6120, a phoen that a lot of people find gets very hot.

anyone have any experience with both phones to provide a comparison?

thanks in advance.

pennywise writes...

You will need to change the product code of the phone using NSS - Do a google search to find this - to a generic one - something like 0552362 would be good, then run the Nokia Software Updater it will pick up that there is no update but it will let you reinstall the firmware, do this and whoohooo no more Telstra branding.

Don't forget to backup your contacts first. :-)

how safe is this? my last phone (6230i) went through the wash and I had to use it for like 10 months without a 1,2,3, left, and left option button, ugh.

So I don't really want to brick my fancy new phone.

chunkYE writes...

how safe is this?

I did mine about three weeks ago.....it still all workes with out any problems

OverFienD writes...

You can't set the contacts to SIM as a default

Another thing I've found with the contacts, is that you are unable to send text messages to SIM contacts either!!

This is a very odd lapse by Nokia, on what is otherwise IMO one of the best phones I've used.

Can anyone report on being able to overcome this?

Cheers!

Yep

The bugger does get hot:(

You'll need a cover just for insulation.

Damn fine phone although I'd like to change the front on the front screen so i can read it.

procrastinator writes...

Does anyone find that the E51 gets hot after a few minutes of use?

Good question. I find it doesn't get hot unless it's charging and I speak on it for a few minutes. It doesn't get hot while just charging and it doesn't get hot while just speaking...weird.

pennywise writes...

how safe is this?

I did mine about three weeks ago.....it still all workes with out any problems

damn it, I knew this would happen. my phone is stuffed.

used NSS and your suggested product code, all good so far.
updated using the nokia software updater, still good. t
hen went to restore my contacts, messages. etc phone restarts and now when it turns on, it comes up "Phone start-up failed. Contact the retailer"
anyone got any suggestions??

:-( sad face

EDIT: just turned it on while holding the green call, 3 and * buttons. Google tells me that this is a hardware reset, and now it's working fine so far. I'm going to restore just my contacts and messages. Hopefully, it'll be all good from now on. Fingers crossed

chunkYE writes...

EDIT: just turned it on while holding the green call, 3 and * buttons. Google tells me that this is a hardware reset, and now it's working fine so far. I'm going to restore just my contacts and messages. Hopefully, it'll be all good from now on. Fingers crossed

Nice tip, another one might be not to try to restore your contacts as it is likely to cause the same problem time and time again...

AndrewMc writes...

not to try to restore your contacts as it is likely to cause the same problem time and time again...

I think the problem was trying to restore everything, not just the contacts. As I did a whole phone backup.

fonerage writes...

I'd like to change the front on the front screen so i can read it.

You can buy an app on the phone that will magnify the font on a S60 3e phone...

>Installations>App. manager>Software Market>Personal Productivity>Psiloc Font Magnifier for Series60 3rd Edition (at the moment it's the first on the list)

It costs 10Euros, but if it does what you need it's probably worth it...

There's also another one available on the phone:

>Download>Nokia Software>Content Tools>ZOOM+ (about 6 down on the list)

That one's 25 Euro.... bit rich IMO! :)

I haven't seen any free ones anywhere, but there probably is...

Hope that helps a bit...

Has anyone here taken the horribly intrusive Telstra crap off? I'm not with Telstra, nor ever plan to be, but because I buy this phone from an authorised reseller I'm somehow obliged to take their crappy, bloated software with otherwise an excellent phone.

Has someone done this yet? If so, is it easy, does it void the warranty, and how do you go about it?

Any help will be treated like metaphysical frankenscence. I just hate Telstra's post-purchase marketing ethos.

The attached was found by a friend of mine and is FREE:)

"Have found and downloaded and am using Psiloc Font Magnifier for S60 3 (mobile optimised version).

got it from here: mosh.nokia.com/content/3...E040050AEE041611

It comes as a zip file. Extract to 'puter and open Nokia Application Installer, Function Bluetooth or whatever connection available and double click on Psiloc... size 552 kb. It will install automatically.
Find it in installations.

Currently set to 140% which clips the fonts a bit.

Seems to be free, says nothing about trial period etc."

Me again,

Free software usually worries me wrt viruses etc and unless Norton comes up with a Symbian version of its antivirus software, you're flying a little blind.

I used the Nokia apps installer to get it off my laptop using BT. I set mine on 120% and seems OK.

Now, to get rid of the Telstra crap and increase the size of the stand-by icons!

bislama writes...

But flashing the firmware voids the warranty?

You can always flash it back to Telstra firmware (if you can, of course), before warranty repairs.

Ruled by Secrecy writes...

Has anyone here taken the horribly intrusive Telstra crap off

as said earlier.....you can do it by flashing the firmware......I and several others have done this and removed ALL Telstra branding from the phone....works a treat....

have I missed it or is there an ETA for three?

B

ok now for something different; does anyone know how to get the telsra stuff back on?

I've been having trouble with the menu not loading up and thought it was because of telstra's crap job at jamming their stuff in. but it's still doing it... so I want to put the telstra stuff back on and get it looked at.

I just purchased one of these slick looking phones today and I've been rather impressed with its features and the all-round Nokia ease of use.

However, I've been trying to increase the incoming ringing duration but for the life of me, I just can't see how to do it. It currently rings for 20 seconds then shows up as a missed call.

Anyone like to help a new E51 owner on his way, please?

Max Rockatansky writes...

However, I've been trying to increase the incoming ringing duration but for the life of me, I just can't see how to do it. It currently rings for 20 seconds then shows up as a missed call.

I've found the following network command to work well on most phones:

**61*XXXX**tt#

Replace tt with a number in seconds. It's supposed to be a maximum of 25 (i.e. 25 seconds before diverting to number XXXX - use 101 for MessageBank). You can try higher, but I don't know if this will work.

Don't have an E51 - yet - so I can't help you out with a specifi